1887-P VNC-12A 051616

Characteristics are described with a degree of granularity intended for die identification more so than for die classification. A characteristic may not span the entire die progression. Thus, not all characteristics may be present in any one coin.

OBVERSE ATTRIBUTES: Clashed die with partial incused st in the last word of the Reverse Motto, In God We Trust, showing in right Hair Vee. Late mintages of the VAM-12A do not have the st transfer as a result of additional clashing and instead has a plateau die crack. Some specimens show a faint clashed n of the first word of the Reverse Motto, In, as a tick at the Liberty's Neck Line. The VAM-12A possesses what is called an Alligator Eye due to the verticle double line positioned in front of wall of the Eyeball. The Obverse Legend, LIBERTY, is doubled. Markers: None.

REVERSE ATTRIBUTES: None. Markers: None

SPECIAL NOTE: A feature that has been described as a "snail" due to its shape, appears on a leaf of Right Wreath Cluster #4. This feature is of the Hub and is seen on Morgan Silver Dollars over a period of many years. Please see Image 16o.

Please see Section entiled Photographs of Special Interest, which contains photographs that have some additional features that are associate with VAM-12A, may warrant additional study, or are just simply interesting to look at.

COMMENTS ON THIS COIN:
  • This coin has all of the attributes associated with the VAM-12A. While it certainly appears to be a VAM-12A, my Page Heading notes it as a Variety Not Certified (VNC) as it has not been certified as a VAM-12A by the PCGS, NGC, or ANACS. It has, however, been confirmed as a VAM-12A by VSS.
  • This Variety is listed as a Normal Date.
  • An Obverse Clash Line is seen exiting Liberty's Neck Line just below the joint of Liberty's Jaw and Neck Line. There is no evidence that the clash event produced an n transfer.
  • The letters of the Obverse Motto, E. PLURIBUS UNUM, are doubled rimward.
  • The Right Stars and Left Stars are doubled rimward as well.
  • A Reverse Clash Line is seen exiting the edge of the Eagle's Right Wing.
  • There is die file line activity in the Wing-Neck Gap.
  • The clash event produced a Bat-Wing feature located between the Eagle's Left and Left Laurel Wreath Cluster #1 and #2.
  • The clash event left clash marks between the Eagle's Right Wing and Left Laurel Wreath Cluster #1 and #2.
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Date and Mint Mark

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Attributes

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Comment: Alligator Eye effect. Comment: Very faint incused st in the last word of the Reverse Motto, In God We Trust, has tranferred to the Hair Vee as a result of the clash event.
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Comment: The letters of the Obverse Legend, LIBERTY are doubled to the right. Comment:
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General or Noted Features

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Comment: The clash marks seen in the Field by the lower portion of the Phrygian Cap were caused by the clashing of Right Laurel Wreath Cluster #1. Comment: Obverse Clash Line. This line was create by the clashing of edge of the Eagle's Right Wing.
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Comment: Reverse Clash Line. This line was caused by the clashing of Liberty's Neck Line. Comment:
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Comment: Die file line activity in the Wing-Neck Gap. Comment: The "snail".
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Comment: Bat-Wing feature. This feature was created by the clashing of the egde of the lower third portion of the Phrygian Cap (Gap Vee area). Comment:
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Comment: Comment: These clash marks were created by the clashing of the Nose to Chin area of Liberty.
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Photographs of Special Interest

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Comment: The VAMWorld description of VAM-12A does not include doubling of the Obverse Motto. However all letters are doubled rimward. Please note that VAMWorld's description of VAM-12 states that the letters PLURIB are doubled rimward. Comment: Doubled rimward.
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Comment: Doubled rimward. Comment: The VAMWorld description of VAM-12A does not include doubling of Right and Left Stars. However, it appears that all Stars are doubled rimward. Please not that VAMWorld's description of VAM-12 states that the first three Right Stars and all of the Left Stars are doubled rimward.
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Comment: Doubled rimward. Comment:
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Regional

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